Well, the commenting on the blog has
been fixed and some interesting thoughts have been rolling in. I
feel like there are some things I need to respond to, so Circle Three
is going to be doing a mail bag post today. The fun part is, most of
the comments I'm getting are anonymous, so I won't be able to tell
you who posted them, but I'm going to respond none the less.
Just so you know how this is going to
work, I'll let you know who made the comment if its possible, I'll
write the comment and then respond to it. And there's no way you'll
like my responses. So, if you'd like to stop reading now, feel free.
I won't be offended.
From Andy Powell: I used to have two
solid scores, but now I only have one? What gives? Just for the
record, course pars are as follows: Peak Course Blues- 63, Peak
Course Whites- 60, and Base Course Blues- 59.
Yes, Andy Powell is correct about most
of what he says here. I messed up the course pars in my article. I
half assed it, there's no denying that. I'll try my best not to make
the same mistake again. I could drop some excuses as to why I messed
it up, but those would just be excuses and we've got no time for that
here.
The meat of Andy's comment is about his
one or two solid scores. He's currently sitting with these scores:
93.75, 17.24, 85.19, 66.67, and 29.17. So, the way it looks to me,
Andy's correct again. I can't deny that both 93.75 and 85.19 are
both solid scores. Another oversight on my end. However, here's the
meat of my comment. Andy's going to need to work a lot harder if he
wants to win this division. Bedell has two 100's and an 89.66.
Harris has three scores in the 90's. Andy's 85.19 doesn't beat any
of those scores I just mentioned. So, Andy's technically right, but
I don't think it's going to be enough.
From Spazz Mcgee: No need to every
play Bagel Bush again. Smuggs cares and is way better of a course.
I feel for Josh and others who try to maintain that course.
Me too. It's a tough and mostly
thankless job. I, for one, doubt I'll be playing Sugarbush again
this year. I think it's going to become one of those courses like
Randolph that I play once a year when tournaments come to town. And,
for the record, that's coming from a guy with another month off and a
serious disc golf addiction.
Anonymous: Haters gonna hate.
Exactly. Haters gonna hate. I think someone I know wrote this one, but he's right. He learned it from me, but
he's right.
Anonymous: Raw chicken is
metaphorically the state of those Peak tee boxes, but Shawn at the
bar is amazing and deserves a raise!
Bingo. Shawn is good shit. He's a
great guy and a great bartender. Whoever wrote this comment not only
knows a good bartender when he or she sees one, but also knows how to
make a wonderful comparison. That was a wonderful turn of phrase. If this commenter would like to talk to
me about doing some writing for the website, please do.
Anonymous: Yeah...yeah...clearly the
Peak Course tee boxes need some work, but other than that I thought
the course looked great. The fairways (ski slopes) weren't
overgrown, and the baskets were straight and at the proper heights.
What more do you want? I for one, can't wait until next year! Just
get them to fix up the tees.
What more do I want? At a tournament
and at a pay to play course, I do expect nice boxes. I don't think
that's too much to ask. And if that is too much to ask, then I'm
going to vote with my dollars. And my dollars won't be going back to
Sugarbush disc golf. That's my right as a consumer and the only real
feedback you can give a business.
However, this commenter does make a
good point that I overlooked. There was some nice mowing and
trimming done on the Sugarbush courses. One place that stands out is
the corner of hole 18 on the Peak. That's often a place where things
get terribly overgrown, but it was very manageable.
As for the baskets, I can't agree. Do
you call this straight?
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| Sugarbush basket |
Anonymous: And how exactly were the
payouts shady? If you have something to say, say it.
Well, first of all, the tone of this
one sounds a little defensive. I'm not sure if the comment is
directed towards this website or towards another comment that
directly called the payouts shady. Either way, it's my website so
I'm going to respond.
My point was not that the payouts are
shady. I've done the TD thing and I've had my argument years ago
about where all the disc golf money is going. No one's stealing
money or getting rich off this stuff. That I know for sure.
However, I really think we need to
encourage people to play Pro. I think it's the highest echelon of
disc golf. Simply put, if someone has to pay $60 to play Pro against
10 other players and then only wins $190 for his trouble, it's not
very enticing.
I'm a betting man. Making a $60 bet
against 10 other people to win $190 doesn't seem like that good of a
bet to me. And that sort of payout isn't going to convince other
people to step up to the big boy division. Finally, there's no
fucking way that the Pro Open winner should win $190 in an 11 person
division and the Pro Grandmaster winner should win $120 in a 3 person
division.
I'm not accusing anyone of skimming
from the pot. And, I fully understand that there was only one payout
in the Pro Grandmasters division. But, in my mind, it just doesn't
make sense. As a betting man, I'd much rather bet my $60* against 2
other old guys to win $120.
My final point is this. If we really
want Vermont disc golf to be taken seriously outside of our state, we
need more Pro Open players. We need bigger divisions, more players,
and more competition. And to get all that, we need to keep
encouraging people to take the risk to move up.
How we achieve that is not something I
can totally answer for you here and now. My first thought is pushing
money up from other divisions to fund Pro payouts. A few years ago I
would have been opposed to that idea. Now I'm not. And, I play in
an amateur division. So, yes, I'm suggesting we should skim money
from my division to pay out the Pros.
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So, there you have it, our first mail
bag. I'm sure this angered more people than the original article.
But, so be it. If you've got something to say, use the comment
section or see me in person. I'm open to discussion.
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*I tried to verify what a Pro
Grandmaster had to pay to play at the LPO but couldn't find the
information online. I'm assuming the division also cost $60, but it
has not yet been verified.
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